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Showing posts with label church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label church. Show all posts

Has your church let you down?

3 Things the people are saying

Mr E and I go to a great church here in the Midlands. The teaching is great, the worship is excellent and there is a genuine feeling of love.

They are very supportive. They preach the gospel faithfully and live it out daily. They reach out to the community and are not afraid to tell it how it is.

Church has always been a huge part of my life. A place of refuge and support, a place to meet with and worship God. A place where I have met some wonderful people, heard teaching that has inspired my walk and have grown as a Christian. However not all my experiences of church have been great. I have been to some churches where I have felt very lonely, even when surrounded by many people. I’ve been to churches where you just don’t connect with what they are doing and Sunday feels like a robotic routine.

I don’t believe church should be like that and often than not the blame is put on the other party, we blame the church, the Pastor blames the church member. Yes sometimes there are fundamental issues which need to be addressed, but sometimes maybe we need to look inwards.

How do you feel when you go to church {this is for both regulars on non-regulars}? Do you feel loved? Part of a family? Or do you feel excluded, alone and unwanted? How should we respond to this? For those non-church goers who wanted to get married in a church, how were you related to?

I came across this article today by Kevin Deyoung - The Gospel Coalition about ‘Dealing with Disapointment with the Church’. When faced with these negative feelings and emotions, he says the following:

1. Did I ever ask for help? Pastors and elders are not omniscient. Even with the best shepherding strategies people will fall through the cracks. So if you really need help, don’t be afraid to ask for it. I know everyone wants to be noticed. But it’s hard for a dozen guys to notice five hundred or two dozen to notice two thousand. Help your leaders help you.

2. Have I overlooked opportunities to fit in and get to know people? Before you complain that you’ve been at the church six months and still don’t know anyone, think about ways you could get known in the next six months. Is there a small group you could join? Could you attend the smaller, more informal evening service? What about volunteering for the nursery next time the sign up sheet goes around? Have you tried the potlucks and picnics and prayer meetings? Giving love and being loved is 90% just showing up.

3. Is it realistic for the leaders to give to every person in this church the kind of care I expect? It’s easy to think “All I wanted was one visit. You can’t tell me they were too busy to set aside one night for my family.” But remember you aren’t the only person at the church. If the general level of care you expect from your leaders cannot be multiplied by the number of people in the church, then you may be hoping for too much. If you expect everything, you’ll always be disappointed.

4. If I really wanted to be loved and noticed why did I stop showing up? On the one hand, church leaders should know when their members have drifted away. Good shepherds keep an eye on their sheep. But on the other hand, if sheep want to be cared for by the flock, they shouldn’t stay from it. People get hurt when their church absence isn’t noticed. But I have a hard time feeling too much sympathy, unless you’re dealing with a shut-in or someone whose absence is not voluntary. Don’t run away if you want to be found.

5. Am I willing to consider that I may be at fault more than I realize? If it feels like your leaders can never do anything right, maybe you’re the one making life miserable–for them and for you.

6. Is it possible I’ve overlooked ways the body has cared for me because I was hoping a different part of the body would care for me? Sometimes church members will say, “Sure, my small group sent me cards but the pastor never called.”  Or, “Yes the pastors were very friendly to greet me after church, but no one my age ever said hello.” Or, “I know the elders care for me, but that’s their job.” Or conversely, “True, my friends prayed for me, but I never heard from my elder.” Before you get angry, remember the goal is for the body to care for the body, not for the shoulder to always get a special backrub from its favourite hand.

7. In general have I found this church and these leaders to be unloving and unsupportive? If the answer is yes, and Question 5 is dealt with too, then you may need a different church. But if the answer is no, consider giving your church and your leaders the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they just botched this one. We all get it wrong sometimes. I know I have. Maybe they were too busy and dropped the ball. Or maybe you don’t know the whole story. In any event, don’t let one misstep colour your whole impression of their ministry.

For both sheep and shepherds the indispensable requirements for living together are love and humility. Love to treat others as we want to be treated. Humility to consider how we may be at fault. Disappointment in the church is bound to happen. But it doesn’t have to destroy the unity of the body. The Lord can use our hurts to make all of us slower to speak and quicker to listen.

What are your thoughts? What is your experience of church?

If you want to read more, Kevin has further posts on the topic: Part 1 and Part 2

Holding Nothing Back

2 Things the people are saying

Learnt this song tonight at worship team practice.

Originally written by Tim Hughes, this version is performed by Jesus Culture. I just love the lyrics. Such a great song of worship.

I am chosen, I am free
I am Living for eternity
Free now forever
You picked me up, turned me around
You set my feet on solid ground
Yours now forever

And nothing's gonna hold me back
Nothing's gonna hold me back
Nothing's gonna hold me back

My chains fell off
My heart was free
I'm alive to live for you
I'm alive to live for you
Amazing Love, how can it be?
You give everything for me
You give everything for me
Everything

You washed my sin and shame away
The slate is clean: a brand new day,
Free now forever
Now boldly I approach your throne
To claim this crown through Christ my own
Yours now forever

And nothing's gonna hold me back
Nothing's gonna hold me back
Nothing's gonna hold me back

My chains fell off
My heart was free
I'm alive to live for you
I'm alive to live for you
Amazing Love, how can it be?
You give everything for me
You give everything for me

I'm free to live
Free to give
Free to be
I'm free to love you

Getting Married 101 {UK edition} - Part One

3 Things the people are saying

Before I got engaged my knowledge of the pre-wedding process i.e. all the stuff you need to do before you can get legally wed was pretty limited. I assumed {pretty naively} that you just decided where you wanted to get married and you just got married there! Fast forward to January 09 and I soon realised that there is slightly more stuff you need to do.

As we're both Christians a church wedding was a no brainer for us, however because my home church doesn’t have it’s own building I always knew that we would have to find a different venue to get married in. In the UK, the type of church you use, will determine the process you go through pre-wedding.

Option 1 - Church of England {Anglican church}

Option 2 – A.N.Other Denomination church

Originally we chose to get married in the Church of England because we didn't fancy the hassle of applying to the Home Office for a Certificate of Approval, which is a document you need if you wish to get married in the UK {outside of the CofE} and don't have 'settled' status. Whilst a COA gives you more options of where you can get married, it was another paper filling exercise requiring the sending off of our passports, which at the time we didn’t want the hassle of.

CofE churches traditionally tend to be very beautiful, however they have strict rules on which of their churches you can actually get married in. Fundamentally you need to live in the parish of that church or have a qualifying connection to the church. We found this to be one of the most frustrating things we faced during the CofE, church search as the churches in the parishes where Mr E and I lived, were both really small. I remember finding a fantastic church near to our proposed reception venue, decent size as well but when we enquired, we were told point blank no {and not in a polite way as well!}.

The biggest CofE church in Manchester is the Cathedral and I thought great, lets find out about getting married there, but they were no different. ‘You don’t live in the parish, you haven’t been attending for 6 months or more, you’re not on the electoral register of the church, no qualifying connection’ - blah blah blah. In the end we both agreed that it wasn't meant to be and said goodbye to the cathedral dream. The whole thing was starting to get a little too bureaucratic for my liking!

After a couple of weeks of further research and visits, we settled on a church in my parent's parish, still relatively large in size {400 capacity} AND beautiful inside and out. Very traditional!

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It doesn’t look it, but it can actually fit 400 people! My camera doesn’t do the place justice.

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The process to get married there seem pretty straightforward. The lady in the church office was so lovely, answering all our questions, giving us advice on things. We completed our details, paid our deposit and were advised that we would have formal meeting with the Reverend 8-12 weeks before to talk through the day. Also three Sundays before we would get married, they would read out our banns. Good stuff – sounded pretty straight forward!

In the meantime we were told that we would also need to apply for a Bishop’s licence {permission to get married in the CofE if one or both is non-EU} which would be issued within a week and is valid for 3 months. This seemed simple enough or so we thought…

More info

Getting married in the Church of England - very comprehensive site giving you all the info you need to plan your day and what you need to do before hand

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